but the toic table is here it just looks a little different at Boston Connor and uh mad Mel Kyper mad Mel today tight ends allegedly a deep class secondary people going to run fast what are you looking forward to today here in beautiful Indianapolis Indiana yeah I think you know you mentioned how deep this year’s tight end class is Pat I think you’re exactly right obviously the top two guys you know Tyler Warren Coulson Loveland I don’t think they’re going to do much today so we’re going to really test the depth today you know a
couple other guys couple prospects who you know if you go by raw Athletic score r which everyone’s talking about the Raz score we’re going to see which of these guys maybe makes a name for themselves and really pushes themselves up big boards is maybe the number three number four number five tight end con man I don’t like hearing new names say they’re not working out the combine yeah I don’t love that at all I mean shador Sanders wasn’t going to throw but came to meet and do medical he announced that before
the combine said Hey listen I got a lot of years of tape that you can watch I’ll be throwing in my pro day which is a normal thing this does happen his workout partner cam Ward also has come out and said he will not be throwing here Tyler Warren not playing Loveland uh Loveland hurt I believe a Royo tight end out of Miami also not working out so you’re seeing some people big names high-end guys not work out pretty status quo don’t need that to become the norm with everybody though con man yeah it’s
terrible I feel like those guys at least they were you know consistently great all year but it does open the door you know will Howard let’s see what you got you can be the star here and and you know we hung around and watched the dline linebackers yesterday I’m not sure if that’s my mic exhilarating very fun to sit around and watch that for a little bit they didn’t actually have the times in the stadium that was a huge Miss so we had to watch the TV copy as well which was great because Rich the
time is always like projected time it’s not the actual time so I think they uh cuz in the stadium all the teams are getting their own time yeah yeah yeah which is nice but for the people in here you know it’s tough to even know the relative hey could be 4 seconds could be eight you know who really knows how to clock those things but now you know it would be nice to see some of the other guys step up a little bit and I know there’s a a tight end out of Bowling Green Fanning is his name Fannon who’s a
absolute stud shattered a bunch of Records this year so maybe a little less known guys unlike the cam Wards and shador and Tyler Warren and lelands maybe make a little name for themselves here today which would be nice yeah put on a little bit of a show here in Indianapolis you can certainly steal it and maybe bump up your draft stalk a little bit and that’s what the magical thing about Indianapolis is is you got a lot of conversations happening behind the scenes you got a lot of workouts you got a lot of face Toof face time with
these coaches and you know Jim Harbaugh said the other day on our program to start this entire week of us down here at the combine he said all these guys say they like to compete well here’s an opportunity come compete some of these guys can really do it will Howard okay mhm my source says are telling me that last night 1100 p.m. at night some people from Indianapolis were walking around downtown and they look into a hotel parking lot it’s a little chilly last night here in Indianapolis and there’s
one guy taking dropbacks and throwing a football over a parking thing to the other side and there’s somebody coaching or catching it they get a little bit closer he said well that’s a tall big son of a throwing a ball there sure is this somebody trying to just be like hey I Uncle Rico this thing combine week all the NFL people here I’m going to do this got a little bit closer it was Will Howard wow it was Will Howard who I don’t know if he flew in or got here earlier whatever the case was but he had a throwing you know schedule that
had to happen did it 11:00 p.m. last night in a hotel parking lot not for the cameras there was no cameras around the person walked by and said it was just him and one other person who was catching the ball for him did not know who it was Will Howard is ready to come out here and make a big impression I believe I’ve not talked to will I’ve not talked to Will’s people I don’t know them that well a lot of people are asking like hey Pat has will Howard got you guys on a payroll no we just so happen to be at all of these games where
he played his best ball and he’s a big son of a and whenever you talk about being big whenever you talk about having Moxy when you talk about being likable and whenever you talk about being able to put a ball on a DOT it’s like is that not what we’re looking for in the quarterback and then allegedly uh I was at Cafe patatu this morning obviously in Indianapolis staple great there’s a lot of people there and uh some people were dropping some information had a great breakfast with Rich Eisen shout out to Rich Eisen for
paying for breakfast getting a chance to kind of see people and chat with people there’s people that are like uh 10 of Ohio State guys were kind of asked if you could bring one player with you to the next level to a team who would it be and I think eight or nine of them said will Howard so when you talk about a guy being loved by the boys especially with how that season went losing to Michigan losing to Oregon a lot of money a lot of names lot of egos a lot of hype going in that could have kind of spun in on of
itself got to give credit to Ryan Day obviously for keeping the boys rolling got to give credit to Chip Kelly for being able to keep the boys rolling who I saw yesterday he looks fantastic let me go back to college win a National Championship then and come up to the NFL and try to do the same damn thing as an offense coordinator this time not a head coach in the NFL has a lot more off of his plate he’s able to just focus on football which would be good but will Howard had touchdown celebration dances
with every guy on the Ohio State Buck guys he was the guy that they looked to to rally and he was the guy that got it done he’s a national champion he’s a stud and he seems like a perfect guy to leader program will he come out here with Cam with shador not thrown Jackson Dart will be thrown uhhuh want the old Miss well easy easy you say that we even to say Old Miss are we even allowed to say the school name you can’t even mention the state of Mississippi oh is this America yeah it is there’s a lot of
people you know saying a lot of I we didn’t start it okay it happened to be the number one Trend in the world for about two days we allude to it say no names I got people saying I’m a terrible I didn’t what do we reporting the news that’s all I’ve already done this dance I’ve already done this dance with somebody from Mississippi before okay so uh I’m I’m ready if you would like all the people that are coming after me we’re ready we are a okay in that world but Jackson dart out of a university in
the South I guess not even allow to say oh we even allow to say that whole thing but he could potentially make a massive jump in this entire thing I love the opportunity for these guys whenever other people choose not to perform and uh I think we’re going to see that now today tight end secondary tone what happened yesterday that is not and what’s going to happen today that we need to talk about yeah we’ll start yes yesterday and we’ll start with the dline Shamar Stewart was the basically the Talk of the Town uh last night during
the workouts he waited at 65267 when uh was he was at the senior balll he was 65281 so he lost about 14 lbs to do what he did yesterday obviously you’re looking right there he ran a 459 at that height and weight which is absurd he also jumped a 40 in vertical and a 1011 broad he basically had the same exact numbers as miles Garrett and the combine off viously miles you know was a top pick and had 32 and a half sacks in college Shamar only had four and a half sacks in college so the the production
wasn’t there but as an athlete he was an absolute freak yesterday yeah and he lost some weight from the Senior Bowl until now he was listed at uh 66 290 in the guide so was he originally that then he gets down to 281 now he’s at 267 it’s like what will we end up being if he gets down to 260 255 is he only going to get faster runs a 459 at almost 270 lbs what an absolute specimen and I believe everything he did was in like the 99th percentile or 998th percentile and you know I don’t think a lot of people knew
Shamar Stewart’s name maybe before yesterday and then yesterday everybody’s like hey this guy’s going to do a day this guy’s going to have a day and he did so he shows up in a big moment has the body type in the making to be a great NFL player good for Shamar Stewart making himself some real money yesterday great uh also on the DN dline group uh Landon Jackson uh out of Arkansas he is 66 270 he jumped 40 and a half in his in his vertical then he ran a 468 which is ridiculous he had 6 and 1 half sacks each of the last two seasons
he’s a late round first early second guy who probably helped his stock a ton yesterday he also redeemed himself in the bag drill in high school he had a tape come out that wasn’t great in the bag drill yesterday just an absolute monster just a different human being yeah definitely and I I think he was obviously going crazy around the internet because of that high school bag drill and people like remember this guy and it was like no I actually didn’t and then once I saw the I was like oh yeah I remember the guy walking up stopping
smacking a bag and then jogging four yards smacking another bag and rolling he had a hell of a day for the woo Pig sooie bunch yeah hell of a day and then we go to the linebacker position a guy we talked about yesterday who was going to show out and did show out Jad Campbell the linebacker from Alabama he weighed in 63 235 ran a 45 uh and then was just at like super smooth in the linebacker drills so he secured himself a first round spot yesterday and like watching his tape like he sees ball he
goes and gets ball so so he he definitely helped himself yesterday and then the last one was James Pierce Jr who when you were going through Abdul Carter stats yesterday you were talking about Abdul Carter and then the second name that you mentioned the entire time was James Pierce Jr The Edge out of Tennessee um he had 17 sacks the last two seasons he ran a 447 yesterday at 65245 so I think he solidified himself as the number two Edge to probably come off the board somehow everybody’s getting faster
bigger and stronger and it’s an honor to watch you know all the hard work that has gone in behind the scenes to get to this Point remember we’re just watching these dudes do these things the amount of hours and early wakeup calls and strict diet and everything that has gotten to this point absolutely bananas congrats to James Pierce Jr let’s go back to Jihad Campbell cuz I was watching all the workouts I I think they went till about 10 10:05 10:15 last night late night last night and I was watching the entire thing he’s long he’s
lanky yeah he is a long lanky fell incredibly smooth a lot of the workouts they had them doing uncomfortable and awkward we’re talking about full Sprints One Direction then telling you to stop turn around having to Sprint back and then catch the ball being thrown directly at you maybe at your body or at your face tough things to do he was clean throughout the entirety there was a guy from Georgia yeah sh Mund what’s his name sh mundon I believe mundon I believe it’s how you pronounce his first name I could be
completely WR I’m not 100% sure if that is what his name is but a l Mund Junior yeah small Mond whatever it is he’s a linebacker can we put the Tweet up that I put out there uh yeah here’s the is that the work yeah here this SCH mundon Jr linebacker from Georgia I didn’t know we didn’t I I thought we didn’t have the video we must have found we found it very late okay so we find the video so he’s running one of these drills right here and I’m watching this last night and this guy is moving you talk about 50
plus tackles each of the last three seasons these are the exercises full Sprint that way stop turn now a strike is being thrown at you and he that hits him right in the face and he just jogs it right off and to be honest I don’t know how that doesn’t happen more to these guys how often are you sprinting Direct ly at a quarterback and he’s throwing a strike right at your face so that thing you’re running full speed One Direction cuz that’s how you’re being judged are you going to be able to go full speed stop turn Go full speed back
and then that thing’s running right at your face looks like an easy catch a lot of guys made the catch a lot of guys dropped it he got hit right in the face bonked right in the nose or the eye I thought potentially they said no and he end up getting back in there but it was a lot of activity it went very long last night and the energy was insane on the field we saw some guys benching this morning a lot of juice looked like there were movement feels like there’s some special situations popping up here yeah
it is and uh then today we we move on to the Dbacks and the tight ends like you said and a guy that I think is going to do kind of what uh Shamar Stewart did yesterday is and while everybody is Nick eeman warry who’s a safety from South Carolina he’s 63 225 and he expects to run like low four threes and he is just an absolute monster on tape he like remember when Taylor Mays came out and and wild everybody at his height weight and then ran like in the four threes they’re expecting Nick Eman worry to do
that today Malak Ty Starks who’s the um safety from Georgia who is personally when you look at the safeties he is by far the best at playing the ball in this draft he’s going to run in the four threes most likely today people are going to be very very impressed by that and then you move to the tight ends we talked about the tight ends that aren’t doing anything today and Conor referenced Harold Fanon out of buling green a mat guy so we’re going to see him today uh he set the record for most yards and most catches in a tight end in
in one season in football in college football history uh so we’ll look at him today and then the other one is kind of forgotten guy on that Oregon offense Terence Ferguson tight end he said he’s going to run very well today he’s 65 260 so if he moves well today he’s also going to move up okay so Terence Ferguson obviously uh that Oregon offense is what it is you know the way they move the ball and everything like that he was a monster but they got a lot of guys over there on that Oregon team that are monsters excited to see him
show up and then in the secondary there’s a guy that’s going to run a four or two yeah Maxwell Haron he’s out of Kentucky he’s the guy that DJ said yesterday was one of his three guys that he said could push the Xavier Worthy record um and then we talked to some sources about Maxwell Harrison who said he’s definitely going to run probably they expect him to be the fastest 40 of the draft okay well he’s not the only one that thinks that I saw a couple people say they’re going to run the fastest yeah both out of Texas Isaiah
Bond thinks that he’s going to run the fastest of all time wide receiver I think we have the video right foxy I’m going to break the record tomorrow for sure I anticipate running 420 or possibly I’m feeling great might one 41 okay okay so he he feels like that’s how he’s going to go Mr Bond shout out to him saying that and he wasn’t the only one yeah Jaden blue out of Texas the running back out of Texas he said the same exact thing so those Texas boys which you know they ran with Xavier last year so they might have an
idea of their speed against him so they think they’re going to compete with him this year yeah and obviously Sark just is a uh track Factory I guess down there makes you wonder you know with uh everything else going on is that just going to continue is Texas going to continue to have that speed and if they do what ises Arch Manning going to do with it uhoh Quin y uh playing through an injury last year is kind of what the narrative has become here at combine so a lot of people are impressed with his
toughness we’ll see how he throws and does everything here at the combine excited to watch that so last night I was watching the combine I thought the NFL Network did a great job with the combine congratulations to them mhm legit I think they’ve done a good job with figuring out how to film it and do it rich and Daniel J Jeremiah are like the perfect tone for it it’s long I mean you’re watching golf you’re watching golf in there VES did look sweet in always does he’s a big son of a too you know that he’s just a big son of
a if you’re a player out there and you want to coach for someone that’s been there done that we’re talking about Travis Hunter how many Super Bowl catches how many touchdowns M have a few not just one a few what did they say about the Patriots with Travis huner uh that the meeting you know between Vel and Travis they did have a little jiel little conversation before Travis left talking about like hey you’re not the first guy to do this yeah but also in the valuation of Travis Hunter the New England Patriots have we heard anything
about how uh the Patriots said they consider and this is just being reported this isn’t from this is not from Rael to us this is from other people’s reporting no this is just from reporting and it’s not from Elliot wolf either but they consider Travis Hunter the number one corner and the number one wide receiver now that could be coming from Travis Hunter’s agent who heard that from I mean there’s just so much that gets kind of thrown around out here just like footballs by Will Howard at 11:00 a
night inot Park think about we were told that by somebody not associated with the NFL somebody lives in Indianapolis we we live here so we know a lot of people around town and they’re like hey saw a guy huge guy just throwing a football in a parking lot at 11 o’ at night we like look at Uncle Rico just like a quick what the hell is going on to the other guy who they did not know and he’s like ah I schedule has like a schedule there was a you know so he got to do this it’s like this guy might be the guy mhm this guy might be
the guy in this no this person couldn’t reiterate enough the the guy that taught us this the source I don’t want to give I I almost just said name there I almost did too we do not that’s the whole thing that the biggest day of this dude’s life guy yeah huh a guy in the NFL no no it’s Indie guy it’s an indie guy that that saw this who literally was just downtown and saw it and it’s like the thought that there was no cameras around like wasn’t trying it was just like I got to get this in somewhere it was like back parking lot
like hidden away almost as if trying not to just trying to get done it’s like that’s a hilarious aspect of it all who are football guy who are guys that you want to bring into your culture you know it’s like if you listen to Crystal Ball down in Miami cam W definitely a guy you want to bring in he said he flipped that entire place on its head was an incredible leader shador has it in like everywhere shador is gone team has followed and gotten better incredible toughness obviously able to do the entirety Jackson darts beloved We
Believe down there in the school in the South School school of South sweet potato pie and we should probably uh put a line through that yeah I don’t even know if we’re allowed to have that on the graphic underneath Jackson Dart you know you don’t say names and people still I mean there’s Lan kein team there’s been a lot of things brother it’s a number one Trend in the world what are you going to do what what do we I mean we are topical but ex like what do we and I think if you listen to the entirety there’s some empathy there at
the end oh yeah and the whole situation which we certainly have but with that being said made a football Point not ready just want to let everybody know ready no nams alluded to a very very very very very very very very very viral thoughts tied it in use The Ledger a couple times a lot of times CU we learned our lesson because we’ve danced this dance before yeah it’s not our with a Mississippi person we’ve done this entire thing before so I I mean we hate that the situation happened but it did sure and it’s like we didn’t create that
no it’s like we just we we report the news he’s beloved by his team you watch the the Jackson Dart is beloved by his team down there in Miss it’s like all these guys seem like guys you want to get in your building too which would be great for an organization and uh I’m excited to see if this draft class has a lot more winners than it does losers because there’s next to no hype but the reason that there is no hype is maybe because these guys are just boring Team guys like maybe you know maybe these
guys are just boring Team guys in this entirety I think a lot of it has to do with you know the quarterback class last year was just so good too and they don’t think those guys like just by watching tape or whatever are those guys yet so it’s like hey it’s a down year so they don’t have the hype or whatever but you know when we were talking about the Raiders you know they knew do have a new OC and you talk about will Howard like could that be it doesn’t feel like he’s going to go number eight over there but
it could it be a second round yeah I mean you have no idea I legitimately I mean from what I’m here oh ni at this time last year was not a first trer Bingo then he puts on a show Nei was pen P wasn’t either yeah Shawn pton meets with him and Sean’s like I love this guy he start looking at the tape through like your offense’s eyes with the guy even J even JJ last year and he was the guy he wasn’t doing it in a parking lot he was doing it in the uh convention set or hallways or whatever and he actuallygot filmed you know uh everything gets filmed by the way yeah so I mean did not with will there last night once again because they that’s crazy to me that that’s happening but to your point go ahead pal no I was I was just saying like cuz because of last year’s class and how they performed in their first year I think that’s why the the hype isn’t there but who says that that can’t happen with all the guys this year too it’s it’s also inevitable that as we sit right now like this game of quarterback
musical chairs someone’s going to get left out and someone is going to panic on draft night I know this class you know even on my big board don’t have a whole bunch of these quarterbacks you going yeah yeah exactly we’ll see what they do on the field but there’s going to be one of these teams who’s putting all their chips in either the Matt Stafford or the Aaron Rogers basket and that doesn’t work out for them so they might be inclined to you know trade back up in the first round or or do something
like that and who’s to say that we don’t see you know four guys four quarterbacks get drafted in the first round well that’s what’s crazy like we’re talking about if Stafford’s here there all over the place if he stays in LA right okay so now all of a sudden none of those top 10 teams that were looking at Stafford they’re not getting them let say because of the Aaron Rogers situation who knows if teams want to do that because at least with Stafford you know you got four or five years you know he’s stil
playing at a playoff level Rogers although we we think he’s great that it didn’t go well for the Jets and then looking at Darnell what if he stays in Minnesota it’s like there’s so many the the musical last two games with Sam darn they they were tough and that might have hurt a that crazy h75 million yeah and it wouldn’t really make sense for him to sign a massive deal in Minnesota because you know K’s KOC you know say what you want about JJ McCarthy if JJ McCarthy isn’t great KOC is going to make him
great okay no ma no matter what that’s why you have Justin Jefferson and TJ Hawkinson and Aaron Addison and maybe Aaron Jones comes back like that situation seems set up for any quarterback so it might only be Sam darnold and then all of a sudden it’s like okay well the Giants and Browns they’re they’re not probably going to move they’re probably going to stay Pat so do the Raiders then go get darnold do the Raiders then you know try and move up to one because that’s another thing with the Titans like we’re talking about
the Titans like well they’re probably not going to take a quarterback what the hell are we talking about okay we all watched the Titans last year they still need a quarterback and this is a new GM and we’ve seen it with new GMS you’ve talked about all the time like those guys want the stamp on their own team and sure like they have you know this I think the Titans are praying to God that somebody really wants one yeah yo cuz they probably wanted you talking about a new team exactly and maybe they take you know Abdul Carter
who is you know generational as we say even though he’s got a foot injury who knows no no one team said or we don’t know how many teams maybe two teams said but there’s 32 teams that are testing that foot out and he woke up the next day and I I would assume another team’s medical said we assume this has been the way this way for a while well only the Titans GM or whatever was the guy that said he didn’t even say him he just said a lot of people hate that generational world ha yeah but you never know yeah
correct somebody could be is that in venar generational yhm you could say that I would say right you think whenever he was coming out of South Dakota State go big go Blue go Jacks anybody was saying this guy’s going to be generational I don’t think so you know you have no idea that’s the thing about the draft that we have to remember we need to remember this and we talk about this on draft night a lot because we have six hours to do it it’s like a lot of these guys are going to suck can’t wait okay a lot of these guys are
going to suck and a lot of people that we think are going to suck turn out to be yeah pretty good and a lot of people we have no opinion about come out of nowhere in our great I mean that is just the history of the NFL that is the reality of every single draft class and that is also the reality of this time of year when people really win somebody over you wi over one team you’re in a good spot okay in the draft you win over two teams much better spot now granted you win over three this is just like
business anytime you have more people interested in your products you’re going to have a runup offer you’re going to be able to do that whole thing but all it takes is one Atlanta Falcons of pennic they were the ones they said we love this guy we just paid a guy we don’t care this is somebody that we think is generational when maybe if you didn’t watch Michael penon college at Washington or at Indiana you didn’t think that going into the draft because he wasn’t chatted about as much as Caleb and Jaden and Drake may you you get it
in that entire thing all you need is one Team Shawn Payton love and Bo Knicks all you need is one team and whenever you hear somebody say Doran draft Knight well that was a reach no that was one team that liked somebody a lot more than everybody else and we’ll assume that they have a vision for a said person and to have them make or make them successful oh and some of those guys I feel like we talk about a bunch the their entire career like they we we almost get bored with them like Brock Bowers when he was a freshman at Georgia
it was like oh this guy this guy is generational he he’s going to go and then he doesn’t even go in the top 10 you know it’s like guys obviously you go back you redraft he’s a a top three pick he was one of the best players in the N I think he was all pro this year was he was he one of the first second set the he set the record yeah like he he set the all-time record for rookies and it’s situations like that like with Tyler Warren you think about it’s like hey this guy was so good at football but
he’s not going to do the combine he’s going to do his pro day and he’s doing meetings and stuff but like who says he doesn’t drop and then in October it’s like how was Tyler Warren not a top five pick why wasn’t he talked about as one of the best dudes and then you know you mentioned too some of these guys that are goingon to suck they’ll end up like Makai beckon where they’ll be talked about and ridiculed for so long and then they’ll go to a situation like Philly and be you know a future alltime guard
one of the highest paid guys could end up like that the guys that end up sucking and just not finding the right home or just actually sucking a football we don’t talk about them ever but Mai finding a new home I mean it’s happening with Sam it’s happening it’s happening with allot of these guys but other positions it very much happens as well I mean our Guy debut our Guy debut gets drafted uh third round second round second round top of the second round yeah top of the second round first late you know whenever his pick is traded on
draft night they go it’s basically like an end of first you know like if you were about to do this ation goes to New England okay goes to Carolina okay comes Indianapolis perfect setup and he’s at the perfect time of his career so there are some people that maybe need to find their spot and go off it’s like but there’s going to be guys that we don’t expect to be Hall of Famers Hall of Famers out here oh yeah yeah and you talk about Tyler Warren it’s like wasn’t he their he was their he he was was
their offense yes they didn’t have wide receivers I wonder why or what the convo is going to be about him especially with the the importance of a tight end in an offense yes I mean if you look at how important that position has become to the sport of football feels like the tight end CH get lot of shine which today big day for that okay [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music]
